Comments on: Supernova 2008: Privacy and Security in the Network Age http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/ digital anthropologist Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:41:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Gerhard Kaiser http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-626 Gerhard Kaiser Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:56:37 +0000 http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-626 Big brother watching You ...... Gerhard Kaiser - Google me Big brother watching You ……
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]]> By: DieLaughing http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-520 DieLaughing Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:26:58 +0000 http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-520 Every time this topic is brought up I like to point out that the first person to allow individuals to *directly* monetize their own personal data will be richer than God. Every time this topic is brought up I like to point out that the first person to allow individuals to *directly* monetize their own personal data will be richer than God.

]]> By: Marty Net http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-516 Marty Net Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:20:53 +0000 http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-516 It has been said that - when you have an environment where someone can do whatever they want someone well. Trolls, spammers and ID thief's are able to feel and act as if they are anonymous. It cost them nothing to maim and abuse anyone or anything. You want to keep the spammers and trolls out of a community just start charging them a dollar and use snail mail verification, and / or moderate the site. The spammer won't pay a dime to spam, and the id thief and troll either can't afford a dollar or won't spend a dollar as long as there is a free place to wreak havoc. The lack of anonymity provides the opportunity for legal recourse. We don't have to give up freedom for security, but we do have to pay for it; or, so it seems. Reading back over my stream of thought, it occurs to me that there is some freedom lost. The freedom of the moment. The freedom to just decide to join a community now or post a comment now. Waiting for verification, online or especially via snail mail loses the moment and almost surely prevents us from commenting now about what we just read, or from becoming involved in a community just as we become interested, or from asking a question just when the answer was needed. As a coworker pointed out to me, we do live in interesting times. It will be interesting to see how the worlds leaders, who's thinking is rooted in the 20th century, and todays young 2.0er's will grapple with this problem. It has been said that - when you have an environment where someone can do whatever they want someone well. Trolls, spammers and ID thief’s are able to feel and act as if they are anonymous. It cost them nothing to maim and abuse anyone or anything. You want to keep the spammers and trolls out of a community just start charging them a dollar and use snail mail verification, and / or moderate the site. The spammer won’t pay a dime to spam, and the id thief and troll either can’t afford a dollar or won’t spend a dollar as long as there is a free place to wreak havoc. The lack of anonymity provides the opportunity for legal recourse. We don’t have to give up freedom for security, but we do have to pay for it; or, so it seems.

Reading back over my stream of thought, it occurs to me that there is some freedom lost. The freedom of the moment. The freedom to just decide to join a community now or post a comment now. Waiting for verification, online or especially via snail mail loses the moment and almost surely prevents us from commenting now about what we just read, or from becoming involved in a community just as we become interested, or from asking a question just when the answer was needed.

As a coworker pointed out to me, we do live in interesting times. It will be interesting to see how the worlds leaders, who’s thinking is rooted in the 20th century, and todays young 2.0er’s will grapple with this problem.

]]> By: The Facebook Parallax | kylebunch.com http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-513 The Facebook Parallax | kylebunch.com Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:52:07 +0000 http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-513 [...] all your friends are this linked in, and sharing the bits about their lives, how do you opt out? You’re getting tagged in Facebook photos, all of your friends are talking openly about [...] […] all your friends are this linked in, and sharing the bits about their lives, how do you opt out? You’re getting tagged in Facebook photos, all of your friends are talking openly about […]

]]> By: Woeful http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-512 Woeful Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:49:54 +0000 http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-512 With cellphones, GPS, FISA, and Google tracking a lot of what we do online, privacy is a thing of the past. Corporations, and/or the Government can build some fantastic profiles on us now through the sites we visit, the users we friend, the products we buy, and the books we read, then they can track where physically we go back in reality via GPS. CREEPY! We've made it really easy for Orwell's dystopia to become reality. With cellphones, GPS, FISA, and Google tracking a lot of what we do online, privacy is a thing of the past. Corporations, and/or the Government can build some fantastic profiles on us now through the sites we visit, the users we friend, the products we buy, and the books we read, then they can track where physically we go back in reality via GPS. CREEPY! We’ve made it really easy for Orwell’s dystopia to become reality.

]]> By: Chuck Simmins http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-511 Chuck Simmins Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:13:01 +0000 http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-511 The desire for privacy and the desire for security are not congruent "shapes". I would prefer that no one be able to steal from me but I have little to hide or that I wish to hide. Security, in and of itself, is completely dependent upon the actions of people, people who are responsible for networks, for upgrading software and for managing settings. If everyone did the basics, such as just using every Window's security update that comes out, security would improve. But, people drink and drive, have unsafe sex, and fail to update. My net security is dependent on imperfect humans. The desire for privacy and the desire for security are not congruent “shapes”. I would prefer that no one be able to steal from me but I have little to hide or that I wish to hide.

Security, in and of itself, is completely dependent upon the actions of people, people who are responsible for networks, for upgrading software and for managing settings. If everyone did the basics, such as just using every Window’s security update that comes out, security would improve.

But, people drink and drive, have unsafe sex, and fail to update. My net security is dependent on imperfect humans.

]]> By: Tantek http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-510 Tantek Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:41:44 +0000 http://arielwaldman.com/2008/06/22/supernova-2008-privacy-and-security-in-the-network-age/#comment-510 Good post and a must read for anyone building a site that has social network profiles. Here is the link to the "block list" portability effort in progress: http://microformats.org/wiki/block-list Most of the work so far has been in researching what existing sites do with respect to blocking, and documenting those examples, in the hopes that a common language/semantic can be found: http://microformats.org/wiki/block-list-examples I encourage folks to add more sites/examples to that wiki page. Thanks! Good post and a must read for anyone building a site that has social network profiles.

Here is the link to the “block list” portability effort in progress:

http://microformats.org/wiki/block-list

Most of the work so far has been in researching what existing sites do with respect to blocking, and documenting those examples, in the hopes that a common language/semantic can be found:

http://microformats.org/wiki/block-list-examples

I encourage folks to add more sites/examples to that wiki page. Thanks!

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